EP 160 The Wandering DP Podcast · Episode #160Lighting Car Interiors

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On today’s show we break down a recent TV commercial and take a detailed look at the lighting, lens choices, blocking, camera angles, and every other aspect that went in to the creation of the spot.

Lighting Car Interiors (especially at night) takes a little getting used to and if you aren’t careful it is very easy to overdo the lighting, making it feel too lifted/flat, or under do it and you end up with an image with very little interest because it is so dark.

The challenge is in balancing just on the edge of the shadows without going to hot on the skin tones.

If you are interested in lighting car interiors hopefully you can take some the ideas we discuss here and improve upon them. 

Enjoy the episode!

Patreon: Feature Film – More Camera Tests + We are Shooting

It is official.  We are rolling.

Check out a selection of the camera tests we performed before rolling and listen in on how those tests informed our decision making going forward.  

The Patreon content is about to get very interesting as I’ll be recording every day on set and keeping a running diary of how the film is progressing.

You can find this week’s Patreon content by clicking the link below:

The Wandering DP Patreon Group

If you are a fan of the podcast and want more video content the patreon group is the place to be.  Each and every week I release an exclusive podcast, video, or live stream just for the Patreon members.

Patreon members also get access to the Private Facebook community for the show.  The podcast couldn’t exist without the Patreon support and I do my best to take care of the supporters.

Lighting Car Interiors – Embrace the Shadows

No special gear on this one.  We shot on some Xtal Xpress lenses from Panavision here in Australia and everything else was just your run of the mill commercial film/lighting packages.

Camera Gear:

Check out the gear I use on all of my commercial shoots by clicking the link below:

Wandering DP Commercial Cinematography Gear

The only kit not listed on that page is the set of Xtal Xpress Anamorphics.

For lighting we went all LED and it was a great opportunity to test the majority of lamps we will be using on the feature.

Lighting Car Interiors: The Set Ups

Set Up #1 – The Driver Rolling

The Shots

The ad opens in a single on our main guy as he drives down a night road.

The Lighting

We had two sky panels at the front and back of the vehicle.  The back for a bit of top down moon light and the front for the reverse head light gag.

Then on the sides we had a litemat 2L for moon push and 4x Astera AX1 tubes to create street lamps in between the actual street lamps.

The front window was covered with a 6×6 of 1/2 grid.

The Result

Set Up #2 – The Wide Reveal

The Shots

In the wide of the car interior we see one shot without the policeman and one shot with him.  The Wide was definitely the trickiest to balance and get right for the lighting.

The Lighting

WE used all the same lamps and diffusion as the first but we had to add in a small 2′ tube inside the car to help bring up the policeman as he watched the driver from the backseat.

The Result

Behind the Scenes

Set Up #3 – The Over the Shoulder

The Shots

This was our reveal of the police lights inside the vehicle.  We played it from the back seat to see the effects on the rear passenger.

The Lighting

Identical lights to the previous set ups except we removed the diffusion from the front window, we wheeled the front skypanel around to frame left to get it out of shot, then finally we lowered the rear sky panel frame right to help it push the police lights deeper into the car.

The Result

Set Up #4 – Lights, Camera, Action

The Shots

Back to our single on the driver but with the added police light effects.

The Lighting

Same as the previous single except we had the rear skypanel out of the shot frame right to help push it in further.

The Result

Set Up #5 -Switching to Day Mode

The Shots

Switching to the day sequence we start back on a single of our driver as she is texting and driving.

The Lighting

The lighting in the day scene is all about the position of the car on the road relative to the path of the sun.  We picked a road that ran from north to south and limited our takes to southern travel.  That put the sun on the drivers side and a little bit behind the vehicle.

We added a 4×4 frame of diffusion over the drivers window of hi-lite.  Then over the hood of the car we used a 6×6 solid to block ambient light coming from behind camera.

On the passenger side windows we place black cloth on the interior to suck up more light on the fill side.

The Result

Set Up #6 – Day Reveal

The Shots

The cop shot during the day.

The Lighting

We removed the black cloth on camera right and then rigged an Arri Skypanel behind the drivers head out the window to help push in more daylight on to the police officer.  

The Result

Set Up #7 – The Stolen shot

The Shots

Same as our police light reveal in the night time set up.

The Lighting

Looking forward meant we could get the skypanel in much closer for the police light effect.  During the day it was much harder to read the light from outside as it needed to overpower the level from the sun.

The skypanel is bright for an LED but not bright enough to give us what we needed to come from the outside.  

We butted it right up against the window and blasted it through and that gave us just enough to read the police lights inside the car on the back of the headrest.

The Result

Set Up # 8 – Busted

The Shots

Our final sequence of the drivers being pulled over.

The Lighting

Because we only had two skypanels we took the one from the rear of the car and placed it on the biggest stand we had in the van.  We matched it to the existing sodium vapor lamps on location then place it frame left and slightly behind the police officer.

Everything else stayed the same on the exterior of the car.  We did add a net at the last second to bring down the passenger frame right as he was too distracting at the same level as our driver.

The Result

Set Up #9 – The Reprise

The Shots

Same as above but during the day.

The Lighting

We were seriously racing at this point to get this shot before the sun dipped behind the houses behind.  

We ran a 6×6 ultra bounce just held by the gaffer frame left to bounce sun back on the officer then added 2 4×4 floppies frame right to help get some contrast in the shot.

The Result

On today’s show we break down a recent TV commercial and take a detailed look at the lighting, lens choices, blocking, camera angles, and every other aspect that went in to the creation of the spot.

Lighting Car Interiors (especially at night) takes a little getting used to and if you aren’t careful it is very easy to overdo the lighting, making it feel too lifted/flat, or under do it and you end up with an image with very little interest because it is so dark.

The challenge is in balancing just on the edge of the shadows without going to hot on the skin tones.

If you are interested in lighting car interiors hopefully you can take some the ideas we discuss here and improve upon them. 

Enjoy the episode!

Patreon: Feature Film – More Camera Tests + We are Shooting

It is official.  We are rolling.

Check out a selection of the camera tests we performed before rolling and listen in on how those tests informed our decision making going forward.  

The Patreon content is about to get very interesting as I’ll be recording every day on set and keeping a running diary of how the film is progressing.

You can find this week’s Patreon content by clicking the link below:

The Wandering DP Patreon Group

If you are a fan of the podcast and want more video content the patreon group is the place to be.  Each and every week I release an exclusive podcast, video, or live stream just for the Patreon members.

Patreon members also get access to the Private Facebook community for the show.  The podcast couldn’t exist without the Patreon support and I do my best to take care of the supporters.

Lighting Car Interiors – Embrace the Shadows

No special gear on this one.  We shot on some Xtal Xpress lenses from Panavision here in Australia and everything else was just your run of the mill commercial film/lighting packages.

Camera Gear:

Check out the gear I use on all of my commercial shoots by clicking the link below:

Wandering DP Commercial Cinematography Gear

The only kit not listed on that page is the set of Xtal Xpress Anamorphics.

For lighting we went all LED and it was a great opportunity to test the majority of lamps we will be using on the feature.

Lighting Car Interiors: The Set Ups

Set Up #1 – The Driver Rolling

The Shots

Our ad opened up on a trolley cart wheel stuck as the cart gets pushed at a rapid rate inside a dimly lit car park. 

The real challenge with this shot was the rigging and gettng the camera in the right spot to be able to pull it off.  With a little help from the grips and the Movi team we managed to nail it.

The Lighting

All practical lighting except for two skypanels on the camera side for wheel reflections.  It was more about what we turned off than what we added.

The Result

Set Up #2 – The Wide Reveal

The Shots

From in tight we pulled back to a wide to reveal the location and our hero talent.  This shot was the whole reason we chose this location as you can see a few of the good elements we talk about in the podcast at play.

Nice practical fixtures and alignment, reflective floor, nice existing color palette, and we can see the darkness in the deep background.

The Lighting

Again this shot is all about what existing lights we shut off to try and force some shape in to a very bland location.

The Result

Behind the Scenes

Set Up #3 – The Over the Shoulder

The Shots

In order to see our hero talent and be able to move with her we put quite a strain on the grips, movi team, and the first ac.

With diopters on anamorphic lenses the DOF becomes very tricky.  We came up with a system that made the focus achievable and then ran with it.

The Lighting

Here again the majority of the work is done by turning fixtures off that were already in the space and then aligning the talent’s action in a very specific section of the road to get the shadowy look we were going for.

The Result

Set Up #4 – Lights, Camera, Action

The Shots

In this section we wanted to use some common car spot shots to sell how fast our hero was racing around this car park.

The Lighting

A few Astera AX1s and a little bit of blocking go a long way in this series.

The Result

Set Up #5 -Switching to Day Mode

The Shots

This sequence shows our hero practicing to raid the aisles of the shopping center.  We used a few different angles to sell the speed and intensity of the action.

The Lighting

The one bummer here was the most graphic opening frame meant the lighting couldn’t have been any harder.  It put our talent right under the practical lights which wasn’t the prettiest but sometimes it is about compromise and defining what makes the most impact in a sequence, the frame or the light.

The Result

Set Up #6 – Day Reveal

The Shots

More of the same, woman racing around trying to make it feel fast and dynamic.

The Lighting

Pretty simple really.

Shoot into the sun when outside, neg everywhere the camera isn’t looking.  Repeat.

In the dug out we chose the one that wasn’t getting direct sun so the light coming in to the du out woul dbe much softer.  Our assumptions that this would make the lighting look nicer turned out to be right.

Add a floppy and handhold the bounce and we were good to go.

The Result

Set Up #7 – The Stolen shot

The Shots

Classic sequence of old mate the security guard watching on the cameras as he sees this woman zipping around the car park.

The Lighting

This was the last set up of the day and we popped the movi rig in to handheld mode and threw up a few litemats and Astera Tubes on his shadow side to make it all happen.  We used a Skypanel in the BG for a bit of accent and that was it.

The Result

Set Up # 8 – Busted

The Shots

This was the key sequence in the ad as it all comes together and it is revealed exactly what has been going on the whole time.

The Lighting

We brought out all the goodies on this series of shots.  

We had the M18 going for the main straight as a back light, the Asteras playing for accent and interest, the Litemats as the keys, and the skypanels for a bit extra in the shadows.

The Result

Set Up #9 – The Reprise

The Shots

Now after the graphics roll we see the husband in a wide shot giving the course a go.

The Lighting

Fitting that the last shot in the car park is where we killed most of the lights in the place.  It was almost all practical here with the addition of our 3 Astera Tubes just for some accent lighting to try and create a bit more interest.

The Result

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